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How do I know it worked?
« on: July 19, 2018, 01:59:04 PM »
I've been doing BBs for a while.

I focus on the past sentence and I repeat it time after time focusing on the feelings it produces.

I've been doing it in english and spanish (my mother tongue).

But I don't know how succesful I've been on it.


In CTs for example you can measure from 0 to 10 your SUDs.

In BB it doesn't seem to be any SUDs to check and I don't know if I am doing it right.

Sometimes I just repeat the past sentence like in auto pilot and O don't know how much time I've been doing that or of I need to do it again.

One of my suspicions is that I've been doing it wrong the whole time and I have to do all the BBs from the beginning the right way.


I don't know if trying hard to believe the past sentence is correlated to the phrase or independent from it

For example. If it is independent from the phrase I could try hard to believe "I was a sandwhich" the same way I could do it withany other realistic belief that I actually have.


when I read a BB sentence it produces me certain feelings that I can CT away. and when i read it again it doesnt produce the feelings.

on the other hand when i do BB i feel the same negative emotions after doing it and reading the sentence again.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2018, 04:20:13 PM by Truman »

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Re: How do I know it worked?
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2018, 03:31:22 PM »
Hi Truman,

Thanks for your post.

I suspect you are on the right track. To check whether a belief is gone, you can say it out loud once you have run the track.

"Trying to believe it" is linked to the specific belief phrase you are blasting. You would only do this, of course, when getting rid of an unwanted belief.

We all hold huge numbers of beliefs and many are extraordinarily helpful and contribute very positively to our everyday experience.

For illustrative purposes, imagine someone identified the belief "I am a bad husband"

Saying that phrase will feel very true and some people may even struggle to say those words out loud, as it may feel too painful.

Pay attention to "how you know" the belief is true - there may be a feeling, "evidence" etc. It will feel or look very real.

Yes, you can contrast this phrase with something like "I am a sandwich", which will likely feel absolutely absurd and is highly unlikely to evoke any negative feelings.

Simply put the belief phrase into the past tense ("I have/had been a bad husband", "I was a bad husband" etc.)

Then simply try hard to believe this while running the track.

After running the track, check to see if it still feels true. It will either feel completely absurd or just neutral.

For some people, this can be confusing, as they don't know if the belief is actually gone. It may not always be as obvious as running a CT, as there is no scaling with BBs - as you mentioned.

As with many of the PSTEC tracks, there is a degree of subconscious post-processing involved and the tracks will continue to work on your mental landscape after you have finished the track.

Ultimately, the results show up in real life and often in unexpected ways. Eliminating beliefs and conditioned emotions is akin to removing a huge weight.

Many beliefs and emotions can contribute to a pattern, so the changes do compound as the layers are stripped away.

One more thing:

It's not an essential step by any means, but some peope could benefit from running counterexamples before playing Belief Blasters.

If the evidence for "I was a bad husband", for instance, was "my wife said so"...counterexamples might include:

1) She was just angry and trying to start an argument
2) She was being unreasonable
3) She just hated some of my behaviour
4) She was wrong or had unrealistic expectations at that time
5) I wasn't being as good a husband to her at that time, but I was a good husband overall

This helps soften rigid thinking and introduce other possibilities.

You could do this for every belief, yet it is not a necessity.

You certainly could also benefit greatly from running the opposite suggestion (or an artful alternative) via Quantum Turbo.

I hope this helps, Truman.

Please let me know if this is unclear or if you require any additional clarification.

All the best,

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Re: How do I know it worked?
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2018, 05:45:56 PM »
thank you paul.

i am doing 1 CT for every BB since now and i think they are a great complementation.


my trouble seems to be that when i do a BB i still feel negative emotions related to that BB after doing it. (when i read it). but maybe the BB worked and i didn't noticed because there's no immediate way to prove it.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2018, 05:48:16 PM by Truman »

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Re: How do I know it worked?
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2018, 05:55:49 PM »
Can you give an example of the belief you tried but still have feelings? Often times there could be a bigger belief about life or the world that supersedes it.
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Re: How do I know it worked?
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2018, 06:32:08 PM »
Can you give an example of the belief you tried but still have feelings? Often times there could be a bigger belief about life or the world that supersedes it.

now i can't recall but one of them was

i had to do what others wanted me to do

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Re: How do I know it worked?
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2018, 07:07:14 PM »
Hi Truman,

Thanks for your update.

Although a belief like that might not be objectively "true" and you can find counterexamples, I suspect it is not "emotionally causal." You are effectively describing your experience. You are unlikely to get a massive shift when the belief you are working on is more of a description of what took place...and less about what you concluded about people, life and yourself.

You might benefit more from looking for the feelings and beliefs when you had to do what people wanted (presumably against your best wishes).

These kinds of beliefs may cause the negative emotions and will produce a more noticeable shift once eliminated:

"I was powerless"
"What made me OK was doing what others wanted"
"No-one cared how I felt"
"No-one cared about what I wanted"
"My feelings were unimportant"
"Life was unfair"

You may wish to check in with those, and see if they feel true or even comfortable to say.

Then you can blast them and you will be able to see the affect more easily.

It will likely feel neutral or absurd when you say the belief phrases after running the BB tracks.

I hope that helps.

All the best,

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Re: How do I know it worked?
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2018, 10:59:15 PM »
that makes a lot of sense. thanks paul.

i just tried to reframe all sentences in a way that i would experience them. instead of describing what is happening, that was a big issue for me.

Hi Truman,

Thanks for your update.

Although a belief like that might not be objectively "true" and you can find counterexamples, I suspect it is not "emotionally causal." You are effectively describing your experience. You are unlikely to get a massive shift when the belief you are working on is more of a description of what took place...and less about what you concluded about people, life and yourself.

You might benefit more from looking for the feelings and beliefs when you had to do what people wanted (presumably against your best wishes).

These kinds of beliefs may cause the negative emotions and will produce a more noticeable shift once eliminated:

"I was powerless"
"What made me OK was doing what others wanted"
"No-one cared how I felt"
"No-one cared about what I wanted"
"My feelings were unimportant"
"Life was unfair"

You may wish to check in with those, and see if they feel true or even comfortable to say.

Then you can blast them and you will be able to see the affect more easily.

It will likely feel neutral or absurd when you say the belief phrases after running the BB tracks.

I hope that helps.

All the best,

Paul  :)

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Re: How do I know it worked?
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2018, 09:33:59 PM »
hey guys i've just tried "women were fucking liars" to add a bit of subjectivity to it and while doing the 18 min BB a lot of emotions came up.

but at the end the emotions related to the sentence were still there so I did a BB of 10 mins on it.

the emotions were still there so I did a CT on it and they banished.

my question is. is this going right or BB should do the work alone and i should not have to use CT to clean emotions related to BB tracks?

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Re: How do I know it worked?
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2018, 10:27:31 PM »
The question would be is that truly the core belief? It could be "women are evil" "all women are liars" "never trust anyone" "I can't trust anyone" "people can't be trusted" "I can't rely on anyone to love me" "I can't rely on anyone to support me" "I couldn't trust myself" etc.

A lack of trust rust often comes from a childhood where you couldn’t rely on the adults around you to love and support you just as you were. Also people who didn't love or support you unless you were good.
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Re: How do I know it worked?
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2018, 04:05:19 AM »
hey guys i've just tried "women were fucking liars" to add a bit of subjectivity to it and while doing the 18 min BB a lot of emotions came up.

but at the end the emotions related to the sentence were still there so I did a BB of 10 mins on it.

the emotions were still there so I did a CT on it and they banished.

my question is. is this going right or BB should do the work alone and i should not have to use CT to clean emotions related to BB tracks?

Hey,

As far as I know, all emotions stem from beliefs so theoretically clearing out the belief should be enough. However, in some cases emotions remain and CTing them is then necessary. I'm not sure why they linger, though. Clicktracks also change beliefs for the most part as well. The recommended approach is to CT and then work on beliefs related to the emotions. Reason for that is once the beliefs lose their charge, it's much easier to change them.

In your particular case with your issue with women, I think matters are a bit complex. For example, if you believe women are liars and let's suppose even this is true, why are you caring so much about that? Do you not trust yourself enough to know that you will be perfectly OK no matter what? Do you imagine loving them unconditionally even when they lie? I would take here a bit more spiritual approach to your issue. You can have fun even when someone lies you know. Paradoxically, I think your issue with dissolve if you lighten up on it and express love.

PS. Sorry you're not on TP anymore.

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Re: How do I know it worked?
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2018, 05:32:12 AM »
Hi Truman and DarekKow,

Thanks for posting.

I feel you have hit on something there, Darek.

If you say a belief, notice how/where it feels true. It might be a nervous feeling in someone's stomach, or tightness in the chest. Keep trying to believe the belief while running the Belief Blaster track. Usually the feeling and emotion will be gone at the end of the track, and saying the belief will feel neutral or even absurd.

It definitely sounds like "women are liars" feels like the absolute truth to Truman, so it might be helpful to do some counterexampling on this.

There will be "evidence" for this belief, and holding the actual belief can restrict someone's view to only noticing the times women have lied.

The notion of someone actually being a liar is effectively a man-made construct. People are routinely called liars due to a breakdown in communication or for not being truthful over one or two matters.

Like Darek suggested, it might benefit you to consider that all women lied to you and always will. Bring up the negative feeling and CT it.

Then you can go back to the belief.

Suppose some of the evidence for the belief was that women didn't call you back when they said they would. Some counterexamples might include:

"Maybe those women did intend to call me back, but just didn't get around to it"

"Maybe those women were lying to spare my feelings, but it didn't mean they were actually liars"

'"Maybe those women were liars, but it doesn't mean all women are"

"Maybe all people have been dishonest at some times in their lives - not just women"

If this is about your Mother lying to you, you could also factor that in:

"Maybe Mom lied to me a lot, but it doesn't mean she was a liar, that all women are liars" etc.

You can also consider whether you have ever done the same things and NOT considered yourself a liar?

Also, if the women had been honest with you, might that have hurt you more?

You will know the exact source of "women were liars", so will be able to run other counterexamples.

Honesty may be one of your values, yet the women who you believed lied to you may have had an opposing value about being kind. Sometimes what we think of as lying is thoughtfulness in disguise.

Of course, certain lies (like deliberately trying to hurt someone by spreading false rumours or outright defamation) can be devastating. If you have encountered such a thing, definitely CT that too.

Like Brian mentioned, the belief might not be core, or perhaps it is and is just a bit stubborn. I think it would definitely be worth persisting with eliminating this particular belief, as holding such a belief would likely make relationships more difficult.

There are women out there who have the competing view that "men are liars" and all manner of beliefs about men. Eliminating this will free you up in all manner of ways, I suspect.

Please let us know how you get on and, if you are comfortable sharing how you "know" the belief is true, we might be able to help you troubleshoot it further.

All the best,

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Re: How do I know it worked?
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2018, 08:05:09 AM »
Another way to hit it is to remove the expectation that "others should be honest" also look at "people who loved me were dishonest" often times you can take a few similar beliefs out and collapse a larger structure.

You can also CT the feelings that because you are honest (good, nice, giving, loving, caring etc) you are entitled for others to be equally honest and reciprocate. As you know you can never expect this from another person.

Also did you do a round where you have a tantrum (in your mind) about 1.) how freaking tired you are of dealing with that issue. 2.) how freaking tired you are of worrying about that issue. 3.) How sick and tired you are about feeling the way you do. Use expletives, cry, really get into it as much as possible?

I'm sure it has anger associated with it that could be holding it up.

Also give a go on "women aren't reliable" "I can't rely on anyone" "people who loved me were unreliable"


Also for sure CT Feelings that your parents/caretaker were unreliable in meeting your needs, other people are unreliable in general and also relationships are unreliable.

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Re: How do I know it worked?
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2018, 12:11:39 AM »
thank you guys. i appreciate your answers and it had been really helpful to uncover lots of stuff that i have been working on since then.


 



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