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Memory dissapear
« on: July 01, 2017, 07:45:59 PM »
Hi there,

First post. I am having some issues when running the tracks. Before working on a memory the emotions are raw, and very much high in intensity. Then, when i run the click tracks the memory just dissapears as soon as i am about to start clicking/tapping. I dont understand why this is happening. I have cleared a LOT of stuff and am very happy with the changes that are coming about with time, and this doesnt happen with every memory everytime. It just happens on memories here and there. What does this mean? And how do i work with it?
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Re: Memory dissapear
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2017, 05:02:14 AM »
Key to understanding what's happening here is do the raw emotions continue or do they disappear like the memory does? 

Also are the raw emotions familiar? If so track them back to an earlier memory, conclusion or event. It's not necessary to clear every memory. Trace those feelings backbyi the originating event and clear that then you may find subsequent memories don't trigger you any more.
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Re: Memory dissapear
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2017, 06:06:08 PM »
Hi sally,

Thanks for responding.
They dont always disapear completely, but they lessen in intensity. Its a little hard to describe, but where as its very intense before i begin the tracks and get ready to start tapping. Then when i start the clicking/tapping track the visual memory becomes very hard to grasp, and the emotions/feelings drop in intensity by a lot. E.g maybe a 9 in intensity before > to a 1 or maybe none at all when i am about to begin tapping to the tones and clicks. I feel as if i really have to hunt down those emotions that were once right in front of me. Does that make sense?

I guess they do feel familiar, i think i have had a lot of similar events happen such as the one i am currently working on. I tried my best today to track back to an original event but this was 10+ years ago and my memory is a little fuzzy back there. Any ideas as to why this is happening? Im unsure wether I am clearing it all out, and finding complete peace with it. Again this only happens on a few occasions.

Thank you for your help.

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Re: Memory dissapear
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2017, 08:52:06 PM »
I experience this exact thing quite often..

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Re: Memory dissapear
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2017, 10:57:01 PM »
Which tracks are you using?
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Re: Memory dissapear
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2017, 12:32:29 PM »
Mostly 2015, accelerators, level 1 and sometimes basic as well.







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Re: Memory dissapear
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2017, 12:56:01 PM »
Hi Clearingmandan


Memory dissapear? Don't worry about it! Recall it as best you can before starting to Click Track it and keep on trying to recall it it as you go through the track. While your subconscious maybe trying to "protect" you by blocking the recall of the memory you are still giving directions to your subconscious as to which memory is being worked on by the Click Track. It may not be as effective, but keep on trying! You will get the result in the end.


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Re: Memory dissapear
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2017, 02:32:13 PM »
All I can say is try as hard to feel the feeling as you possibly can the entire time. The harder you try to feel it the more accurate and quickly your sub will feed you the original. Also you don't need the memories if you have the feeling. If you are using accelerators just try as hard to feel the feeling and use the why technique and let your sub show you the memories it's the easiest and fastest way removes all guesswork. Try hard to feel that feeling and I mean hard even when it's faded keep trying HARD!

Also I do notice when listening to the instructions that as soon as times voice starts the feelings start to fade for me and I suspect the intro and just by hearing his voice  starts to release. Especially on the medium and long 2015 tracks. The more I CT the more I noticed this.

« Last Edit: July 03, 2017, 02:51:48 PM by plus1g »
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Re: Memory dissapear
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2017, 06:47:50 PM »
Hi guys,

I kept on working on it all of last night and today, and i am at peace with it, well almost. I am going to click track it again tonight, and clear out that last bit of it.

Thanks for the advice peter, i did exactly that. I felt a big shift once i had found some form of resolution with it. Its strange, it was harder to clear but i felt profoundly positive afterwards. It didnt seem like that big a deal compared to other stuff i have worked on, but hey, who am i to argue with feeling a little more positive about myself.

Do you stick with it thomas, and continue to run the click tracks on it? Would be interesting to hear back. As i was saying before i found a lot of peace after i cleared that out, and flipped it. After sticking with it, the memory started to open up to me. All the smaller details i couldnt even remember started to surface one by one as i knocked them out, if it helps i also ran the click track on "how i would be/feel if i did not have this event bother me anymore" then found peace with that, i think it enabled me to open up to the thought of letting it go.

Hi plus1g,
Thanks for your advice.
What is the why technique?
I try as hard as i can to feel the feeling, i just kept on going while running the click tracks. Thats strange, there could possibly be that element for me also, as it seems to be when tim begins talking that the memory dissapears. Although it isnt everytime. I was thinking about it today also. Its almost like that moment, when you feel unwell, as soon as you step into the doctors that flu/cold or whatever begins to fade. Almost as if you know that help is on the way? Does that make sense? It could either be that, or my sub is atempting to protect me? Either way it wont stop me finding peace. Thanks for your input, i have read through a lot of your posts, and can see you have come a long way to healing on your journey, so well done

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Re: Memory dissapear
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2017, 07:44:20 PM »
http://pstecforum.com/pf/confused-and-not-sure-where-to-start/why-technique/
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Re: Memory dissapear
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2017, 07:50:09 PM »
Hi Dan,

I do stick with it and continue running the track. For some reason, it's easier for me to connect with the emotion, with the actual feeling, that's associated with the situation/memory I'm working on. It's like you described it... I can recall the memory vividly with detail, but as soon as the track starts and some of my attention goes to following the clicks, the memory sometimes slips away completely, is difficult to hold on to or becomes hazy.

I suspect it's the sub trying to protect the old mind model. The example with the doctor visit.. I know exactly what you mean.

For instance, when running The Wrapper, I have a hard time with flashing the memories quickly in my mind AND connecting to them or feeling the emotion at the same time. As if I needed more time to connect the two (memory and emotion). I can either flash memories quickly without feeling much emotion or I can connect to a memory more deeply, but at a slower pace.




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Re: Memory dissapear
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2017, 01:58:10 AM »
Hi Dan,

What the other folks have written is spot on.

It is not uncommon for someone's mind to wander during a PSTEC track. Also, it does make sense that the feelings and feelings may dissipate before running the tracks. These will not affect long-term results in using PSTEC, as long as you are following the instructions and trying to feel the emotions.

This could be the sub protecting you, or it could simply be that you are anchored to feeling better as the tracks play.

It can be very effective to write down exactly what you wish to work on before running the tracks - write down the memories, the emotion and the triggers. It can keep you on-task. It can also trigger other.memories.

Another strategy that can be very effective when dealing with "older" memories is to try to recreate the feelings you had then. Go back to how you would have felt as your younger.self.

Which feelings did you have then? Sadness? Fear? Whichever emotion it was, do you have recent experience with that (e.g. another context)?  If so, then you could evoke these feelings (assuming you have not already dissolved them!) in the more recent context and then attach them to the past context/memory just before running the track...and then CT them.

Please let us know how you get on.

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Re: Memory dissapear
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2017, 06:10:24 PM »
Hi guys,

Thanks for the link plus1g, i tried it last night and it seemed to be very effective. I am about to give it another go tonight. A lot of stuff came up I had long forgotten, so i think I am going to use this often, once again thanks for pointing me to that. Do you use the why technique often now?

I feel as if we are very similar thomas, a lot of what you have described is the same as how it is for me. Do you still find peace in those events that once troubled you? I think once an emotion or feeling pops up, I have to find myself keep going back to it, because it slips away quite quick. I know its not a race though, love the journey, not the finish line. I have come to realise challenges and obstacles will always arise, and we never stop learning. It's interesting we are both wired in similar way with the click tracts etc, and can help one another.  :)

Hi Paul,

Thanks you for the advice. I've got a list of events etc jotted down, so I go back to that regularly and find peace in those events, as much as I can. I will work out what emotions are involved and add them to the memories from now. You mentioned trying to recreate the feelings I had once had in those memories, is that a normal protocol for running the click tracks? Is it how I feel about the memory looking back now, years later, or how i felt when those events happened? Because often times before running the click tracks, i find myself feeling different looking back to how I felt as if I was there. E.g. I felt anger in the events, but look back and feel sadness. Should I get both?

Thanks for all the advice Guys
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Re: Memory dissapear
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2017, 03:26:02 PM »
Hi Dan,

What I suggested is not the standard protocol, per se, but it is another very useful way to access feelings/emotions that might be suppressed or hard to access.

The emotions can be suppressed for a number of reasons, and some of them have been mentioned in this thread.

Other reasons can be: embarrassment about having the problem, rationalising the problem away, using platitudes to feel better about the problem or to convince yourself the problem is gone.  On top of this, people can distract themselves out of problems.

Some of these reasons can come from the conscious mind and make perfect sense, but knowing how you "should" feel does not make problems disappear. If it was that simple, we would probably just choose bliss all the time. That would be pretty awesome, to be fair!

So, while the standard protocol works the majority of times, going back to how you would have felt "back then" and clearing that can be highly effective, if the emotions are not coming up.

A.good example of this would be if someone had a relationship break-up and they do not resolve it. Time goes by, they read a few books, get some advice and realise the relationship was a good thing. However, on a subconscious level, the hurt or feeling of rejection is linked to the break-up.

Someone might be embarrassed about feeling bad about the break-up, or might suppress the feelings away with platitudes like "plenty more fish in the sea!" or "que sera!"

The memory might not seem troublesome.

So, to dissolve the memory in this type of scenario, going back to how the person felt at the time of the break-up would be very effective.

If you feel sadness thinking of the memory now and anger at the time, or vice versa, keep CTing until you neutralise the emotion in both contexts. This would mean that, yes, you can remember that you felt a certain way in that memory but can no longer recreate it in yourself now.

I hope that makes sense.

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